Can you walk us through your career journey so far? What is your area of specialization and how did you come to work in this area?

I began my career in the Indonesian government, holding various positions within the Ministry of Finance. I have served as a Customs and Excise Inspector, Head of a Customs Office, Chief of Staff to the Finance Minister, and Assistant Minister for Macroeconomy and International Finance. Throughout these roles, I have leveraged my background in economics and financial management to help shape key policies.

Wempi at his office conference's room in the WB HQ, March 2025

Currently, I serve as the Executive Director for the Southeast Asia Voting Group at the World Bank Group (WBG), a position I have held since November 1, 2022. In this role, I represent 11 countries--Brunei, Fiji, Indonesia, Lao PDR, Malaysia, Myanmar, Nepal, Singapore, Thailand, Tonga, and Vietnam--ensuring that their perspectives and priorities are effectively voiced at the World Bank Group (WBG). Additionally, as a WBG Board Member, I contribute to decision-making on lending, operations, and knowledge-sharing between these countries and the WBG.

My expertise lies in economic and financial management, developed during my tenure at the Ministry of Finance. I am also deeply engaged in international development and economic diplomacy, working on initiatives that drive growth, reduce poverty, and promote sustainable development in emerging economies. Furthermore, I focus on public policy and governance, collaborating with policymakers and government officials to make sure WBG initiatives align with national development goals.

My journey to this position has been a combination of performance and some lucky breaks. While serving as Assistant Minister and handling G20 Finance Deputy duties during Indonesia's Presidency in 2022, I was given the chance to compete for the role of WBG Executive Director. I pursued the opportunity and was fortunate to be selected. I am deeply grateful to my Minister, whose trust and support allowed me to take on significant responsibilities and contribute to international development at a broader level.

You are currently serving as an Executive Director for Southeast Asia Voting Group of the World Bank Group. Please tell us about your main roles and responsibilities.

At the WB HQ Atrium during the sideline of IMF-WBG Spring Meetings, April 2024

I have two main responsibilities: representing member countries and serving as an official at the WBG. In my representative role, I ensure that my group's interests and concerns are effectively communicated to the WBG Board and Management, ensuring they receive fair consideration. As a WBG official, I am also responsible for acting in the best interests of the WBG and all its member countries, exercising sound judgment in decision-making.

My work involves providing strategic guidance to align the WBG's direction with member priorities, overseeing operations, finances, and accountability, and approving policies that affect the WBG's work and resource allocation.

What are some of the biggest challenges you face in your work? And what have been the most interesting or rewarding aspects of your career thus far?

Balancing the needs of my constituency countries with the broader goals of the World Bank Group is a constant challenge. I have to navigate geopolitical tensions, economic fluctuations, and global trade protectionism, all of which impact both the WBG and its clients. This requires flexibility and strategic planning at all times.

At the Wolfensohn Atrium gallery, after taking a group SEAVG photo, April 2024

Despite these challenges, working in international development and economic diplomacy is incredibly rewarding. It's about boosting economic growth, reducing poverty, and promoting sustainable development in developing countries. I have the privilege of witnessing the real impact of our work--reducing poverty, fighting stunting and learning losses, expanding energy access, bridging the digital divide, promoting renewable energy, and addressing food insecurity.

With your extensive experience in public finance and international economic relations, how do you see the role of multilateral institutions like the World Bank evolving in the face of global challenges such as climate change and economic inequality?

The World Bank Group is stepping up its efforts to address major global challenges, focusing on climate change, economic inequality, global public goods, and partnerships. In the fight against climate change, the WBG allocates 45% of its annual USD 120-130 billion lending toward climate-related initiatives, balancing efforts between adapting to changes and finding ways to reduce impact. This includes strengthening resilience against climate impacts, protecting natural ecosystems, and addressing climate-related losses.

To combat economic inequality, the WBG aims to stimulate global growth by providing financing, technical assistance, and expertise to reduce poverty and inequality. The goal is to ensure that more people benefit from globalization and economic development.

Regarding global public goods, the WBG plays a key role in tackling climate change, forced displacement, and disease outbreaks by integrating global and local strategies and collaborating with both public and private sectors.

Finally, partnerships are essential to the WBG's mission. By working closely with development organizations, civil society, the private sector, and other partners, the WBG enhances funding, efficiency, and impact, ensuring more effective support for those in need.

Looking ahead, what are your professional aspirations, and where do you see yourself in the next decade?

Over the next decade, I envision myself continuing to grow and evolve in my career, embracing new challenges and opportunities. I aim to further deepen my expertise in international macroeconomics, finance, and development, potentially taking on leadership roles and contributing to high-impact projects.

At the same time, I aim to stay adaptable and open to learning, as the world and industries are constantly changing. Ultimately, my goal is to make a meaningful impact through my work while continuing to find fulfillment in what I do.

What led you to GRIPS? What aspects of your GRIPS education have been most valuable in your career, and how has your experience at GRIPS prepared you for future endeavors?

GRIPS was my first real exposure to an international academic environment. I had always wanted to study abroad and gain global experience, and GRIPS turned out to be the perfect place for that. I'm naturally impatient and always eager to learn new things, so GRIPS was a great fit for me. The university offers a world-class education, particularly in economic development and public finance. The faculty includes renowned experts, the facilities are excellent, and the academic environment fosters strategic thinking and innovation. I took many highly relevant courses at GRIPS, which equipped me with up-to-date and well-rounded expertise that continues to benefit my career.

You earned both your master's and Ph.D. from Japanese universities. How did your academic experience in Japan influence your perspectives on economic policy and international development?

My academic experience in Japan has had a significant impact on my perspectives on economic policy and international development. Studying at Japanese universities was a transformative experience for me, especially in the fields of economic development and public finance. The courses I took there were instrumental in shaping my perspectives. For instance, the course on Economic Development provided me with a deep understanding of the complexities and challenges faced by developing countries. It emphasized the importance of strategic thinking and innovation in policy formulation.

Another significant course was Public Finance, which equipped me with the knowledge and skills to analyze and manage public resources effectively. This course was particularly valuable as it covered various aspects of fiscal policy, budgeting, and financial management, all of which are crucial for my role at the WBG.

The academic environment at Japanese universities, with its renowned faculty and state-of-the-art facilities, further enriched my learning experience. Exposure to diverse perspectives and the emphasis on strategic thinking and innovation helped me develop a well-rounded understanding of economic policies and their global implications.

Since completing your studies, have you had any professional or personal engagements with Japan?

At the Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governor's meeting in Bali, during Indonesia G20 Presidency, July 2022

Yes, I have been involved in several different areas. First, I have been actively engaging with Indonesian students in Japan, helping them navigate career opportunities in international organizations, particularly the World Bank. I provide them with information, mentorship, and access to talent outreach programs to support their professional aspirations.

Second, I participated in the Asian Productivity Organization (APO), a Tokyo-based institution, where I contributed to reviewing and shaping their future leadership awards program and shared my knowledge about global economic prospects to help guide their initiatives.

I also facilitated the participation of Japanese colleagues in events held on the sidelines of the World Bank Group (WBG) and International Monetary Fund (IMF) Spring and Annual Meetings in Washington, D.C., focusing on digital transformation.

Lastly, I am part of the Think20 (T20) expert group, organized by the Asian Development Bank Institute (ADBI) and the Rockefeller Foundation, where we discuss and promote recommendations for the G20 and G7 Presidencies, particularly in development financing and climate resilience.

Balancing a demanding career with personal life can be challenging. How do you manage this balance, and what do you enjoy doing outside of work?

Balancing a demanding job with personal life can be challenging indeed, but I've developed a few strategies that help. I prioritize setting clear boundaries between work and personal time, allowing me to focus fully on each without unnecessary stress. I also make sure to take care of myself and do things I enjoy outside of work. For me, that includes spending quality time with family and friends, exploring the outdoors through travel, and participating in volunteer work. These activities help me recharge and maintain a healthy work-life balance.

Ultimately, I believe in creating value through our work, making a positive impact on others, and enjoying life along the way.

What are some of your fondest memories from your time at GRIPS? Is there anything in particular that you miss about Japan?

Some of my fondest memories from my time at GRIPS include the amazing friendships I made and the vibrant academic environment. The faculty members and Student Office staff were always friendly, professional, and incredibly supportive. I truly appreciated the engaging class discussions and the opportunity to learn from renowned professors.

Although the Shinjuku campus was quite old at the time, the campus facilities were excellent. I also cherished the experience of exploring Tokyo with my classmates--it was a great way to immerse myself in the city's unique energy.

One thing I really miss about Japan is the food--udon, sushi, ramen, and all the delicious street food. I also miss the unique blend of tradition and modernity that you find everywhere in Japan, from serene temples to bustling city life. Japan is a remarkable example of how to harmonize local wisdom, modern innovation, and cultural diversity.

For those considering studying at GRIPS, what advice would you give to help them make the most of their experience?

For those considering studying at GRIPS, my advice would be to fully immerse yourself in the experience and make the most of the opportunities available. Actively participate in class discussions and learn from the renowned faculty members.

Additionally, connect with your peers and build a strong network. The friendships and professional relationships you form at GRIPS can be invaluable for your future career. Don't hesitate to explore Tokyo and other cities--there's so much to discover. Lastly, stay curious and open to learning new things. This mindset will help you grow both personally and professionally.

How would you like to stay engaged with GRIPS as an alumnus? Do you have any suggestions on how the GRIPS alumni network can be further strengthened and utilized?

As a GRIPS alumnus, I'd like to stay involved by participating in alumni events, mentoring students, and engaging in discussions. Sharing our experiences could be really valuable for current students and fellow alumni.

To strengthen the GRIPS alumni network, we should create more opportunities for connection and collaboration. This could include regular networking events (both in-person and online), along with a platform for sharing achievements, seeking advice, and offering support. It would also be great to involve alumni in curriculum development and as guest lecturers to bridge the gap between academic learning and real-world application.